... رسائلكم - 2005...
30/11/2005
كان الله فى العون - محمد المصري
السيد حكيم تحية طيبة وبعد
صدقنى ياحكيم زعلان على خاطرك. كيف تجتمع كل هده الصفات فى شخص واحد ويكون سويا قد
لااستطيع ان اجمعها لك فى هده العجالة
وحتى نوفر الوقت. انت الوحيد الدى تشبه حاكم قدافستان فى كتير من الصفات رغم عدائك
له حسبما قلت لنا ولا نعلم ان كان هدا حقا ام لا لاننا قد جربنا عليك الكدب حسب
ماكشفه لنا ارحومة والتدليس والتناقض والمراوغة والاستهزاء بالاخرين والتعالى
وكل هده الصفات وغيرها كتير. ولو ا جتمعت هده المنكرات فى شخص الا كان دكتاتورا وهده
ايضا تشترك فيها مع صاحبك والدليل على دلك عدم نشر رسائل المخالفين وابراز حجج واهية
فى عدم نشرها
نسيت شيئا اخر هل صحيح انك لاتفهم العربية ام تتغابى وهده
ايضا تشترك فيها مع عدوك فعلا لقد تحديتك ان تنشراقوال بعض العلماء فى القرأن الكريم
ولكن ماشاءالله عليك اسف فانت لاتعلم ان كان هناك اله ام لا
توخر وتقدم ودبر فى سبلة زيك زى صاحبك او عدوك اختر انت منها
ماتشاء وتضع الرابط هل ترضى ان يضع
الاخ اغنيوة الرابط لموقعك دون نشر الرسالة
لقد دكرنى موقعك بجريدة الجماهيرية كل مايكتب فيها شكر وتمجيد
لصاحبك واخبار كلها مكدوبة عن التعاسة والشقاء اللدان يعيشهما كل سكان الارض الا اهل النعيم الارضى وفى الصفحة الاخيرة بريد الكايد
حتى فى هده لم ترضى الا ان يكون موقعك نسخة من الجريدة سالفة الدكر
التحدى هو ان تنشر الرسائل كما هى.و خا صة مقالات ارحومة
اننى احمد الله انك لاتملك القوة ولا السلطان والا كان حال المومنين ( بكل الاديان)
وخاصة المسلمين القتل والتنكيل اش معنى هده بتخالف فيها صاحبك
وكدلك موضوع النبوءة فهو رسول الصحراء وانت لانعرف رسول من
لعلك تكون رسول بالخير او رسول البزقليف المفروض ان تهتم بنفسك شوية
لانك وببساطة جعلت الابطال يجتمعون فى غير الجنة. والاشرار(وارجو ان لاتكون منهم )
يجتمعون فى غير النار لعله باب العويزية اليست هده نبوءة مش مهم منين
واليوم بررت قول العلماء فى القرأن بانهم لم يومنوا بالقران من اين اتيت بها وهل لو
بعت اليك بااقوال لعلماء غربيين اعتنقوا الاسلام ستقتنع ام انك ستموت غيضا اتحفنا
ياشيخ يا رسول البزقليف
نسأل الله ان تكون الوالدة عندك( احسن الله اليها وغفر
لها ورحمها) لم تتوحم على صاحبك او عدوك ولانختلف كتيرا طالما كنت شبيه الاوحد
نسأل الله العلى القدير ان يهدينى واياك الى سواء السبيل ان كنت صادقا فى البحت عن الحق الدى لا
يكون الاعن طريق الايمان بالله
وان كنت غير دلك نسأل الله الدى نومن به ان يحشرك مع صاحبك وباقى الكوبية امين
سامحنى ان كنت قد اسأت اليك من غير قصد منى
محمد المصرى
26/11/2005
Rubbish Mind
i wouldnt say even hi to such rubish people like u, all i can say, u all mental sick people, and disbelivers, and nobody gives a shit about what you saying, and you have nothing to give but hopelessness, and sickness, becasue u r hopeless and sick, u got to remmber that u r like dogs bark on the sky, so what can dogs do to the sky, i wouldnt call u by your name, but i would say u r a devil, and narrow minded, cause all u can see and feel just what your sences tell u, so what is your mind for then, i bet u dont have a mind, so u r as same as animals, but u r worse, i dont have too much to say to people like u but all damsn on u.
atfee
Dear 7akeem,
Some people might ask: are U smarter than many millions of Muslims all around the world? who are u to think that u r very clever to be the only one who discovers that religion has nothing to do with God? the simple answer is:
- i am sure that there many many Muslims who think the same but they cant speak
out because they can not the face the society, they cant stand against the
non-sensible aggressive mechanism of defense that Islam managed to adopt over the
years ... examples are 2 many to mention .
- others who might be very smart could not see the truth because Islam prohibits
thinking it self . it aborts the process before it even starts . there are always
areas where u cant go coze it s Simply Haraam. As a result, even people who are
very clever and educated wont be different from others coze they can not use their
brains and knowledge in this .. They live in the dark like others. believe me, once
u start this, the out come is inevitable .
- did u know that big names in the Golden History of Islam have been considered
as Kafara. For example: Inb Sinaa, Arrazi, Jaber Ben 7aiaan, Bashaar Ben Bord,
Abo Al-3ala Alme3arri ,Al-ja7edz, ebn-Al haitham and many many others. Religion
has alway been difficult to sell to Scientists and Thinkers ..
i guess u forget what 7akeem is saying and start it from a scratch .. go and find
out more about history of Islam. u ll soon discover that all the books and stories
we have been taught in the school are very very selected .. there are so many holes
and blind areas, left untold intentionally .
i am now very sure that there is a systematic organized control over what is told
and what is not .. people who do this know the truth and know exactly what to do to
keep it locked somewhere there in The wholly land. Stop feeling sorry for Islam.
And stop saying that The Jewish Lobby in the US is the strongest in the world ..
i am proud to say: it s not ....
The Man with the iron mask
23/11/2005
After some time, u would be able to spot out people who know the truth. Some of
them are good and some of them are really bad .. for example, some one like Shaikh
Qaradawi .. i cant believe that he does not know .. but he's chosen to use it to
help himself and to help other people, and that's why i respect him .. i am sure
that most of the Saudi Imams know all about it, but again they stand with their
nation, they back up their history, they d rather protect 1400 years of glory
coze it's kinda national treasure and many of them can still make living out of it ..
so why stop now?.. explains many things, doesn't it ? i play this game every day ..
i watch people on TV and i try to figure out who is who ... it's really a great
game .. after some time u get very sharp and it becomes very hard for anyone to
fool u .
Now, some one like Qaddafi, who's been always using Islam as a reason and
a shield .. today he prays in public like a saint, tomorrow he says Mu7ammad 7aff,
a day after he kills 1200 good Muslims in a sad noon with cold blood and then
he is the true Muslim again .. how can any one in the whole world convince me
that this man doesn't know. come on, can't u see this ... this secret is
a privilege; and no one will give it out that easy (except 7akeem) .. why should
i if it will give me the freedom when all others are caged? Qaddafi must be very
upset when he reads 7akeem's stuff, coze his secret is not a secret anymore ..
we all know why he is doing this ... he thinks he's gonna get away with it ...
and he probably will unless we do something here .. Do3aaa and prayers wont do
him any harm ... people who left their revenge to God should claim it back now ...
what applies to Qaddafi probably applies to many leaders, criminals and world
figures. just open ur eyes and they are everywhere .
Again, i still love the prophet Mu7ammad SA3WS ... i can even picture him now
leading his revolution all alone ... must be a great great man to live with his
secret and take it with him to the grave. must be a great man to stand up for the
truth ... i am sorry that 7akeem had to go through his mistakes to prove his truth
but i now respect him more than ever, i love him more than ever ... and i wish
i have the chance to meet him some day ... i still feel that there is God ..
and still hope that he is there for me when i need, he will still reward the
saints and punish the sinners .. and i still feel that when we die it's not over ...
i feel, it s never over.. ever ...
The man with Iron Mask
نقطة جديرة بالتأمل .. لدي نفس الإحساس فبعد أن تصل الى هذه القناعة تزداد قدرتك
على ملاحظة من يحملون نفس قناعاتك ولكنهم يتظاهرون أمام الناس بالإيمان .. ولا شك لدي
أن الرسول محمد كان يعرف هذه الحقيقة وكذلك عمر بن الخطاب بدون شك.. أنظر الى جرأة عمر
عندما عطل الحدود وألغي سهم المؤلفة قلوبهم .. هل كان يجرؤ على هذا لو كان يؤمن
أن هذا كلام إله؟ طبعا لا.. ولكنه يعرف أنه مشارك شخصياً في وضع بعض هذه الآيات كآية
"تبارك الله أحسن الخالقين" أو كآية الحجاب والتي يدعون انها نزلت موافقة لقوله..
ولكن هل من الحكمة لرجل مثل عمر بن الخطاب أن يقلب الطاولة على الجميع لغرض كشف الحقيقة
المجردة؟ ألم تجلب هذه الخدعة أموال الدنيا وجاهها وإمائها وعبيدها تحت قدميه؟ ألم
تنتشل أمة العرب من رعي الإبل الى سكنى القصور؟
ملحوظة قصيرة وهي اني لا أكره الرسول ولا أحبه .. أنظر اليه كشخصية تاريخية لها
ما لها وعليها ما عليها.. كما لا أنكر انه كان من أعظم قادة التاريخ ولكن هذا
لا يجعله رسولاً ولا يجعل قرآنه وحياً
22/11/2005
Dear Hakim
My apologies for writing in English, I don’t have an Arabic Keyboard.
Dare I say that I enjoy reading your aggressive writings..!! Even if it is only
for your courage for breaking every rule that a Moslem should adhere to.
Not to mention the persistent question (are you one of us? –that is, are you
a Moslem?) A very upset & frustrated Moslem properly?. Maybe that would explain
the rather acute cynicism & (most definitely the HATRED!), for every thing that
Islam stands for .Don’t get me wrong, it doesn’t really bother me.
I am not afraid of your writings that they may contaminate my beliefs (as a lot
of others might say) quite the contrary. I am not going to call you the servant
of Satan out on a dammed mission to destroy Islam; I think you are much cleverer
than that.
I think you are a very intelligent & good writer with the problem of an over
inquisitive mind .But maybe that is not much of a problem for an atheist like you.
it is probably how all those persistent question marks came to bog your mind in
the first place .but that is ok – this can be remedied with a more balanced reading
from the opposite side’s point of view.
What really bothers me with most of the arguments of atheism is the one sided
approach to the argument & frankly the fascination with the exoticism of the subject.
A fair & balanced philosophical argument should be based on honesty & integrity
of the argument – far from the ridicule approach I sense in most of your writings.
Keep writing & reading .it does wonders for the human mind!!
Kind regards
S....
Dear S....,
Thanks for writing and no worries about writing in English.
No one can disagree with an advice of a more balanced reading. Not me, certainly.
I honestly feel flattered that you think I am intelligent (I, for one, don't
think so). However, I read more about Islam than I did about atheism or agnosticism.
This is why I'm not swayed but its sweet talk. After all, I was a Da3eyah myself
and have brought enough people to come to be better Muslims. But believe me,
I hold no hatred towards Islam nor do I hold any hatred towards anything.
My position is the following: I believe that Islam, not much different from
other religions, is an evil frame of mind. The problem with Islam is at the
source rather than with the interpretations. By being mildly critical of Islam,
people will misunderstand the message. They will think that I disagree with one
interpretation or another whereas I disagree with the true, valid, honest
interpretation of the prophet himself. It will go down the drain among hundreds
of messages that were conveyed in the same roundabout way.
I can name really good things about Islam and I feel no problem citing them.
I, myself, owe many things partially to Islam. One of these things is the fact
that I don't drink or gamble. The reason I'm not doing that is two fold:
1- I don't want to confuse my reader with a seemingly mixed message. Good things
in Islam don't make Mohammed a prophet, nor do they make the Qur'an the word of God.
This is a common misconception among the general public.
2- People don't need to hear yet another singer of the praises of Islam and the
prophet. Heck knows we have enough of them.
Now to the part of the sarcastic nature of my writings: As I said, I don't want
people to think I am a reformist. To me, this amounts to selling drugs. People
will continue to believe that there's nothing wrong with Islam but some
interpretations are evil. Nothing is farther from the truth than this claim;
in my humble opinion. You can think of the sarcasm as some sort of shock therapy.
We need this kind of therapy and I know that no one has the courage, myself
included, to go public with these beliefs. Since I am anonymous, I might as well
say what I think is right.
Best regards,
7akeem
21/11/2005
Dearest 7akeem ,
congratulations for the website ... ur last article was a piece of art . I am sure
that some people are still shocked and it will take sometime for many to see the
truth .. but once u pass over, u look behind and u realize how silly and weak was
the whole thing .. only because I was there sometime I would understand the reaction
of many people ... it's like a very thin and dark walled prison, u are there and
u think u r in a proper prison, the first time u try and break it it tears off
like a cheap paper ...u get out, u look at it and u can not believe that u were
there for like 30 years ... however, u probably need some help, u need some one
like 7akeem to whisper in ur ears and tell u the secret: it's a lie, it s a lie ..
and bukk, u r in the sun for the first time ... u r clean and free like a child ...
truth might seem to be sad but only for the first few weeks then, u r a happier
man (or woman) ..
Dear 7akeem,
I know it s not gonna be easy for u but, wont be more difficult than it was for
Arrasool Mu7ammad Salla Allah 3alyhi wa sallam ( still my Hero anyway ) who was in
ur shoes some day .. it s easier for u coze u don't have to claim that u've been
sent by God ..u don't have to go out in the streets , u don't need to have sa7aba
or companions , u don't need Jebreel to come down every now and then and u don't even
need God .. u r fine like this, a Ghost with a libyan roots who found what he
believes is the truth and wanted to share it with others .
Yours Faithfully
The Man with the Iron Mask
أتمنى لو كان لدي وقت لترجمة هذه الرسالة!! وسأعلق على النقطة الأخيرة منها وهي
اني شخص وجد الحقيقة ويريد أن يشاطرها مع الآخرين، وهذا صحيح وهو خلاف ما يتصوره
البعض (الشيخ ونيس المبروك مثلاً) من المؤمنين بالمؤامرة من أن هذا مشروع منظم لتخريب
عقائد المسلمين .. الخ .. وهذه التجربة قادتني الى مشكلة في صلب الاسلام وهي
كالتالي: هل ستسمح لي الدولة الاسلامية إذا ما قامت بأن أنشر مثل هذه الخواطر؟ الإجابة
طبعاً لا.. والسبب هو خشيتهم من زعزعة العقائد فلا غرابة إذن من أن أكون ضد قيام الدولة
الإسلامية بغض النظر عن أي أسباب أخرى
السيد حكيم: تحية من الأعماق.. جهد عظيم .. استمر.. ونحن هنا بالجوار وسنواصل القراءة
محمد _______
19/11/2005
[المصري ______] : (تحفظت على باقي الاسم خشية عدم رغبة المرسل في اظهاره)
السيد حكيم: لقد قرأت مقالك الأخير وكم أدهشني هروبك ومراوغتك فلقد أوهمت
القارىء بانك متابع لكل ما يكتب على صفحة اغنيوة ولكنك أردت الهروب مما قد كتبه الأخ
محمد ارحومة في ثلاث مقالات كانت قواصم لأنها قد أظهرت كثيراً من جهلك ولا أود أن
أقول كذبك وتدليسك وفي المقال الثاني قد سألك سؤال ولكنك لم "تجاوب" عليه ولقد بعث
إليك أحد القراء مرتين في الأولى سألك أن ترسل اليه كل مقالاتك وفي الثانية سألك
ان كان علمك "قطي" ولم تحرك ساكناً
[حكيم]: قرأت مقالات الاخ ارحومة وأذكر انها مقالات جيدة وبها نقاط تستحق التعليق
ولكن بصفة عامة لم أشعر انها تنقض كلامي أو تظهر كذباً أو تدليساً فلدي من النصوص
الأصلية المحققة ما يغنيني عن الكذب والتدليس.. وقد أرسل لى أحد الاخوة بريداً خاصاً
طالباً مني جميع مقالاتي وقد أرفقتها له بالفعل .. ولم أفهم المقصود بالعلم "القطي"
ولم أجد كلمة قريبة منها لان الواضح ان هناك خطأ في الطباعة.
[سيف _____]:
آمل أن تكون يهودياً وليس ظحية (بالظاء) .. وأرفق فصلا من مقال او كتاب يتحدث عن
سيطرة اليهود على العالم!!!
!!Go figure
["إبراهيم_71"]:
"كان غيرك أشطر يا سفيه، التحدي في هذه المعركة مع الأنذال أمثالك انه لو اجتمع
الإنس والجن لما أثروا في مسيرة الإسلام فما بالك بموتور حاقد مثلك يا ملعون وما ستفعل
مثل هذه الصفحة في مسيرة الرسل الكرام يا غبي!! .. انها فطرة الله التي فطر الناس عليها
ولا تبديل لخلق الله رغماً عن أنفك يا وغد!!
يبدو انه ذات الشخص الذي أسهب الاخ سواني تيكة في وصف شخصيته كأدمن في البالتوك..
هل تتوقع من شخص يعجزه التعبير فيستخدم سبع كلمات بذيئة في ثلاثة أسطر أن يستطيع
التفكير؟.. المشكلة أن هذا الشخص ينظم جلسات الليبيين على البالتوك.. ولطالما قلت ان
ثقافتنا لا تفرز الا الطحالب والطفيليات والا فكيف يرتضي اناس لديهم نصف أو ربع دماغ
بشتام لكي ينظم لهم حواراتهم الفكرية؟ .. وكيف تدعو جمعية المرأة شخصاً يدعو لاستعمال
مبضع الجراح مع محاوره لالقاء محاضرة في "فن الحوار"؟
[____ عصمان]
There is no peace for you.
All I want to tell you is if you think you are clever enough to talk about islam in
the way you just have then you are very dumb. And you are very evil just like
a devil And I promise you that somthing will happen to you and you will see it with
your own two eyes and I will leave you with your devil
Keep waiting, bro. Might as well try to speed it up with some Do3a :)